The Race to Value Podcast

The Race to Value Podcast


Ep 89 - A Legacy of Leadership in Value-Based Care and Competency-Based Education, with Michael O. Leavitt

January 17, 2022


This week we have the great honor of hosting one of the most respected American political leaders over the last few decades, a visionary who ushered in a new era of value-based care in our country during his tenure at HHS. Someone who is known for a strong track record of building collaborative relationships that achieve measurable results, who also is an entrepreneur at heart.  Of course, we are talking about no other than the legendary Michael O. Leavitt!


As the former Secretary of Health & Human Services and a three-time Governor of Utah, Michael Leavitt earned a reputation for leading change through collaboration. He is one of the most influential leaders in the value movement because he sees how it can balance human compassion with the need for global economic leadership.  Michael Leavitt is also an early pioneer in competency-based education and co-founded Western Governors University – the leading nonprofit online university in the country, serving over 100,000 students with over 100,000 alumni.  This week marks the 25th Anniversary of WGU’s Founding, and we spend considerable time honoring Michael Leavitt’s legacy by discussing both his leadership in value-based care and his vision for competency-based education to drive workforce development in health value transformation.


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Episode Bookmarks:


01:40 An introduction to the legendary Michael O. Leavitt and his storied leadership in value-based care


03:10 Balancing human compassion and Global Economic Leadership to ensure compassionate delivery of healthcare


04:00 Gov. Leavitt’s cofounding of Western Governors University on January 15th, 1997 (this week marks the 25th anniversary!)


05:05 The language of health is heard by the heart. The richest and poorest of us are bound together by the uncertainty of our mortality, the health conditions of those we love and, in some cases, the desperation of our pain.”


06:30 Michael Leavitt provides an extensive history of the U.S. healthcare system and how poor system design led to high cost, low value care


10:40 How high healthcare costs (as a percent of GDP) compromises global competitiveness for the United States


11:30 “Value-Based Care” entered into the healthcare lexicon during Leavitt’s tenure as HHS Secretary


12:40 We are in a race to make value work. If we can, we’ll have the kind of compassionate care we want to provide and maintain our economic leadership.”


14:20 Health is going to be one of the fields of competition between economic competitors, and getting our health system right will be critical to that. And value will be the means by which that can occur.”


15:30 Leavitt explains how the adoption of value-based contracts has been impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic


17:20 Leavitt describes his proactive leadership during the H5N1 pandemic as HHS Secretary and the influence of “The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History”


19:20 The failure of human beings to realize that pandemics as a part of natural history and how that leads to lack of preparedness.


22:00 When it comes to pandemics, anything you say in advance sounds alarmist. Anything that you have done after it starts is inadequate.”


24:20 Moving to value will require us to learn and change. You can fight this change and lose, you can accept this change and survive, or you can lead this change and prosper.”


26:10 Solving complex problems through collaboration and how cooperation only seems to come about in times of great exigency.


28:50 Referencing his book, “Finding Allies, Building Alliances: 8 Elements that Bring—and Keep—People Together


29:45 Building an alliance of 19 U.S. Governors twenty-five years ago led to the founding of Western Governors University (read more about WGU’s History)


31:30 Governor Leavitt discusses how the founding of WGU originated by recognizing the problem that higher education needed to be disrupted


33:50 The visionary concept of delivering competency-based education over the Internet


35:20 The influence of Clayton Christensen’s “The Innovator’s Dilemma” on the founding of WGU


36:30 Overcoming challenges to succeed at delivering high-quality, low-cost education


38:30 Michael Leavitt discusses the founding of the Accountable Care Learning Collaborative and why it was important to have it housed at WGU


40:30 Establishing the “DNA of Value-Based Care” through an expansive network of peer learning and collaboration


41:10 The ACLC and WGU is of such importance to the value movement. They provide learning to make this part of the American ethic, and I think that’s the way the race to value is going to be won.”


43:00 Governor Leavitt explains how competency-based education provides the opportunity for persistent, lifelong learning in the new skills-based economy


46:40 How nondegree credentials that “move beyond the degree” will be the future for Workforce Development in Value-Based Care


48:00 The philanthropic support and vision of Dr. Richard Merkin to build new learning pathways to reskill and upskill the healthcare workforce for value


50:30 Mike Leavitt discusses the importance of “rapid, repeated, retraining of healthcare professionals” with the Value-Based Care certificate program at WGU


51:30 Equity in health cannot happen without equity in access and attainment of education for underserved learner populations in the health professions


53:20 How we can improve access and outcomes in healthcare by employing workers from underserved communities, and how WGU is solving for that through higher education


55:00 Stackable certificates are a key part of a national strategy for both value-based care and making progress in social inequities in health.”


56:30 Retraining an entire healthcare workforce to address health disparities and the capacity that WGU has to make a successful contribution


57:45 Mike Leavitt explains why the movement to value-based care is taking so long by telling a story of a cattle stampede and how to best “nudge forward”