Who can turn the world on with her smile? Well, it’s you, and we want you to join us for our Mary Tyler Moore-themed episode—be sure to bring your Bubbie with you!

In addition to our usual chatter about Rory and Lorelai, we’re talking Mary, Rhoda, and Ida. Ariel Fisher, co-host of After All: A Mary Tyler Moore Podcast joins us for a discussion of the classic sitcom, and boy, are we glad she did. While Kyla and Taylor are rather baffled by this reference, Ariel makes a serious case for taking over their hosting duties because of just how much insight she brings! We talk about how Ida ties in with Jewish representation in pop culture, Ariel’s experiences with her own Bubbie, and the traits Dean shares with Rhoda’s mother. And don’t worry—by the end of the episode, we figure out we’re gonna make it after all.

Other pop culture we ref: All in the Family, Betty White, Ed Wood, Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, This Is Us, The Handmaid’s Tale, The Brady Bunch, I Love Lucy, Angela Lansbury, Archie comics, Funny Girl