How can you avoid designing harmful experiences? Product designer Catt Small talks to Clare Sudbery about her journey from 10-yr-old game developer to successful product designer, and shares many inspirational stories – including the creation of the Game Devs of Color Expo, helping marginalised people to progress in their careers and fundamentally getting things done.

Catt Small is a product designer, game maker and developer who enjoys creating interactive experiences at Asana and helping people to become their best selves.

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Episode links: Lara Hogan, Dennis Liaw, Chris Algoo, Shawn Alexander Allen, GJ Lee, Brian Chung, Sara Wachter-Boettcher, Catt on Twitter, Catt’s website, Prism Shell (game), Asana’s design team, Game Devs of Color Expo. 

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