Organisations are complex adaptive systems - they change constantly as a result of the interactions between teams and individuals. Esther Derby joins us to talk about how an understanding of Human Systems Dynamics can help you to spot dysfunctional patterns of behaviour and help people to find positive ways of connecting with one another.

Acclaimed expert and author, Esther Derby draws on four decades of experience leading, observing, and living organizational change.

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Our theme tune is “For The Miles” by Richard Murray.

Episode links: GeePaw Hill, Ron Jeffries, Jessica Kerr, Peter Senge, Glenda Eoyang, Esther’s YouTube, Change the World for a Fiver, Kat Arney. Visit https://tinyurl.com/podcast-making-tech-better for links and info.