Just Fly Performance Podcast

Just Fly Performance Podcast


406: Rafe Kelley on Empowering Athletic Movement Potential

April 11, 2024

Today’s podcast features Rafe Kelley, owner of Evolve Move Play. Rafe has studied and taught a multitude of movement practices spanning gymnastics, parkour, martial arts, weightlifting, and more for over 20 years. His passion is to help people build the physical practice that will help make them the strongest, most adaptable, and most resilient version of themselves in movement and life. Rafe has had a profound impact on my coaching and training philosophy and has helped me expand my views on the totality of the bio-psycho-social model of movement and human performance.

Much of modern training is overly prescriptive, reliant on drills, and overemphasizes winning. This leads to practices with a reduced learning potential, a downplay of creativity, and a lowered ceiling of movement and skill potential. It also leads to less engaging practices in general.

In today’s episode, Rafe delves into his unique methods and teachings that foster creative and adaptable athletic movement. He explores the interplay of constraints and play in sport and skill training, underscores the significance of creativity and improvisation in movement (and how to cultivate it), and shares insights on the role of joy in movement. Rafe also touches upon collaborative movement training, rough-housing, dance, and movement improvisation, and how these elements can shape better learners and movers in their respective sports or movement practices. By gaining a deeper understanding of play, exploration, and constraints, we can unlock the full potential of human performance.

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Main Points
2:30- The balance between constraints and free play in coaching, as well as children’s skill development

15:30- Training based off of “following one’s joy”, versus more set skill rehearsal

25:30- Creativity and improvisation in human movement and sport performance

32:30- Athleticism, dance, and individual dancing versus dancing with others, in context of sport

41:00- Roughhousing and links to team sport movement and problem solving

48:00- Forms of play that are both done for winning, as well as learning, exploration and mutual growth

57:30- Scaling and continuums of effort in individual and team sports, for improved learning

1:07:00- The use of roughhousing, and contact improv oriented work, on facilitating play states, and opening up movement options in a donor sport format

Rafe Kelley Quotes
“Soccer works because there is a set of constraints; there are structures that allow the game to exist, but there are infinite degrees of freedom once the constraints are in place”

“Usually I’ll have 3 areas I’m working in, and then one core skill”

“At the end of the session, I’ll ask them “What was your rose, your bud and your thorn”. They get to reflect on what they want to hold going forward”

“Sweet, we are playing tag. How do we add a little more speed demand to that tag. How do we play a version of tag that looks like this, and gives you the thing you are looking for?”

“Creativity is the ability to create a solution to a movement problem, in a sport situation”

“What made Barry Sanders special wasn’t that he did set plays better than anybody else”

“A gymnast doing a high bar routine, is actually adjusting constantly to try to achieve the goal; they are not doing the exact same thing… but that’s far less ...