Welcome back to the In Reality podcast, covering all things Augmented & Virtual Reality. In Reality features industry news, commentary, and perspective from AR/VR veterans and experts.

In Reality is co-hosted by Marxent’s Joe Johnson and Joe Bardi. Johnson is the Creative Director at Marxent, and has been in the AR/VR industry for four and a half years following a stint on Microsoft’s Office UX team. Bardi is Marxent’s Senior Content Strategist, and has been in the industry for about a year, after having spent more than a decade in print and TV media.

For this week’s show, the Joes are joined by special guest is Vince Kilian, Marxent’s Lead Technical Artist, who joined from a lofty crag, hidden from the world by constant, unending storms and shrouded in a cacophony of wailing electric guitars. Vince has forgotten more about product development than you will ever know.

On this week’s show, we’re talking Amazon’s plan to preview furniture using Augmented and Virtual Reality (where’d they ever get that idea?!!?) and what shake-ups at Oculus mean for the future of techies who ascend to big-time management positions.