Michelin-starred chef Aktar Islam & Calum Franklin talk all things pies and Calum discusses openly his alcohol addiction and being 10 years sober.

This is the fourth episode co-hosted by Michelin-starred chef Aktar Islam from Opheem in Birmingham. He has invited six exciting guests to join him and Cara Houchen, Editor of The Staff Canteen, each week.

Our guest on this episode is Calum Franklin from Holborn Dining Room and author of The Pie Room. Join us as we find out if they believe in aliens, all things pies and Calum discusses openly his alcohol addiction and being 10 years sober.

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