Todd is joined by Andreas Pantli, the founding pastor of ICF Hamburg in Germany and main session speaker at this year's FILO Conference. From his experience as the arts and production pastor at ICF Church in Zürich, Switzerland, one of the most influential churches in Europe, he and Todd talk about production and creativity from a high level view.

Show Notes:
FILO 2022 Chicago Conference: We are just a month away! Today's guest, Andreas Pantli, is a Main Session speaker. Get 10% off your ticket purchases by using Promo Code "PODCAST10" during checkout.  Head to filo.org/filo2022chicago for more details.
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