Our conversation with contemplative author Martin Laird continues with this episode. To hear part one, click here.
"What I mean by 'Contemplative' is ultimately overcoming the illusion of separation of God, and that illusion is sustained and maintained by inner noise in our head. And everything about our culture keeps our attention riveted there." — Martin Laird

Some of the resources and authors we mention in this episode:

Martin Laird, Into the Silent Land: A Guide to the Christian Practice of Contemplation,
Martin Laird, A Sunlit Absence: Silence, Awareness and Contemplation
Martin Laird, An Ocean of Light: Contemplation, Transformation and Liberation.
Martin Laird, Gregory of Nyssa and the Grasp of Faith
Miguel Farias & Dr Catherine Wikholm, The Buddha Pill: Can Meditation Change You?
Evagrius Ponticus, The Praktikos & Chapters on Prayer
John Climacus, The Ladder of Divine Ascent
The Desert Mothers and Fathers, Early Christian Wisdom Sayings
Bernard of Clairvaux, Selected Works
Anonymous, The Cloud of Unknowing
John of the Cross, Collected Works
Meister Eckhart, Selected Writings
John Ruusbroec, The Spiritual Espousals and Other Works
Thomas Merton, Dialogues with Silence
Thomas Keating, Open Mind, Open Heart: The Contemplative Dimension of the Gospel
Richard Rohr, The Naked Now: Learning to See as the Mystics See
Teresa of Ávila, The Interior Castle
Howard Thurman, Essential Writings
Martin Luther King Jr., Strength to Love
Diarmaid MacCulloch, Silence: A Christian History

"Life itself is too wild to be tamed by the social constructs that we try to shoehorn it into." — Martin Laird
Episode 56: Silent Land, Luminous Ocean: A Conversation with Martin Laird (Part Two)
Hosted by: Kevin Johnson
With: Carl McColman
Guest: Fr. Martin Laird, OSA
Date Recorded: February 18, 2019
"In deepest silence the self is 'unselfed' of self... Silence 'unothers' the other." — Martin Laird