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How to Reduce Myopia

January 31, 2023

Here is a session I did with a patient who is struggling with Myopia. It’s a great session where we work together to create a plan that works for her. I answer questions on the plus lens to blur and eye dialog exercises, so I wanted to share it with you all. Enjoy the show!

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Hey everybody, in today’s show, I did a session with somebody with myopia, some of my best stuff. So I hope you enjoy our session. Take care, you want to tell me about the plus lens to blur the eye dialog, your prescriptions, your vitamins, I draw my god, I had to do so many things. So, any changes, things getting better or worse?


I haven’t been getting better. I’m hoping it’s not getting worse.




I’ve been pretty consistent with the plus, plus lands to blur, whatever, whatever that one’s called.


Lessons. The blur? Yeah.


Yeah, I’ve been pretty consistent with doing that.


Okay, well, let’s forget about the results for now. Let’s, let’s put that aside, even though that’s why you’re, that’s why you’re here for results. You learned anything about your habits? Anything about your relationship to blur? And like, Do you like it? Do you hate it? Are you checking out? Because it’s really, the best way for you to make change is to understand what the exercises are showing you. Maybe you’re not that kind of person where you can be reflective or go inside.


Yeah, I think I am that kind of person. I,


I do. So, yeah. Okay, so then, what are three things that you’ve learned about yourself? And the blur? I mean, what? You’re, you’re looking through the blur? Does it make you happy? Does it make you sad? Does it make you you know what? You know, getting? What? What’s it doing to you?


Yeah, suggesting you use the word. Sad because I have felt like, Okay. I feel like I’m doing okay, I don’t feel I don’t feel frustrated with the blur. But I have found myself feeling sad. Because, like, especially I love the view my view of the mountains out here and I know I’m missing things. And I’m sitting here with my children. You know, I’ve gotten used to it how it is I’m using the I’m mostly just using the


seven is it seven seven? Yeah.


With that I can drive my children to school go to town. It’s okay. But definitely, I definitely feel some sadness over. Just missing things.


Sadness over missing things. Yeah.


And like at church, I can’t like when people are singing and I love to listen and see everything and and I think that affects it might affect my confidence a little bit with going to meet people in a crowd. Okay, but I would say I feel okay. Like I don’t feel really frustrated with everything.


So looking out


and see if it shows up here. I gave you minus seven and a contact or minus seven and minus six. Do you remember what you used to wear?


Or did you wear anything?


Well, it was like my original prescription when I came to you, wasn’t it minus nine and minus 10. Okay.


So um, have you tried to put on your minus time nines or minus 10s?


I’m just I wore them for my my boys did a Christmas concert thing and I put them on for that because I really wanted to see for that.


So here’s the 5050 $1,000 question, see if you can get this one, right. And this is a very hard question that I’m going to ask you. So you may or may not have an answer for it. But


the question is,


how do your eyes feel when you wear the minus nines? Versus how do your eyes feel? When you wear the minus sevens, now I’m going to talk about it’s blurry. So I feel bad. I’m not talking about the experience. I’m talking about the actual body muscular feeling. But yeah, nines.


Um, I definitely felt CAD, I think I wore them two times. Another time was when I was driving into the city, and I wasn’t sure what to expect. So I put on my old contacts just for about 30 minutes as I was driving in, and I quite quickly wanted to take them off, I felt quite a strain. I didn’t feel comfortable with emmalin anymore.


Okay, so then I’m curious when I when I asked you at the very beginning. Have you noticed any changes? And you said, No. In fact, I think things might be worse.


So do you want to still stick to that answer?


Or do you want to put in the column? Hmm, at least I’m a little more awake in my eyes that I know that the minus nines are doing that, to me, that’s entirely up to you. But that might be an indicator that things are beginning to loosen up for you. I mean, what do you think about that?


Yeah. Yeah, I think I think when you ask it that way, I think I could say that. That I feel them relaxing.


Maybe, okay.


So then there has been some change. Yeah. Huh. Okay, I’m just checking in I you know, you can certainly say no change, things are getting worse. It’s your your eyes. But when I hear you talk about it,


you’re certainly allowed to change your answer if you if you want to. Yeah. I find that curious.


Do you actually believe you can change your eyes? Is there a part of you that’s just like, really like, Oh, this isn’t gonna work?


You can be honest.


I mean, just based on your first statement, Well, nothing’s changed. And this word may be worse. You know, because you’re doing the exercises. So I mean, you know, unless you’re flatline. While you’re, you’re just, you know, being mechanical about it. If you are they say that you are the kind of person that goes inside and feel stuff. Then, you know, can you go a little deeper, instead of just saying the blurs, okay. You know, if you went for a psychotherapy session, and you say to the doctor, hey, how you doing? Well, I’m okay.


What are you feeling? Oh, I’m okay.


Probably not going to get much out of the session. And so, you know, I’m just, I’m just reflecting back to you. Like, give yourself some credit, maybe, that maybe there are some things that are changing, that. Maybe they’re not on your radar screen, or you’re not aware. But otherwise, that would just say, go have a party and put on your minus nines and forget all this. Right. I don’t think you’re I don’t think your eyes would like that.




yeah, that’s what you used to live in before you met me. Right? So something must be changing for you. If if you don’t want to wear your minus nines anymore, right. That was that was what your friendly eye doctor gave you, I guess. Right? You’re worthy. Yeah.




Have you tried the minus sixes at all?


Yeah, I have. I did more at the beginning. Okay. And I guess, yeah, it would be a good time to try it again. Because I, I did. And then I realized, you know, for getting out and driving, I felt more comfortable with the seven.


Okay. So


I may have said this at the last session,




you only should wear reduce prescriptions in situations where you don’t feel sad for not seeing it clearly. Like if you’re trying to wear a reduce prescription in the situation, where you want to see more clarity, then it’s probably like shooting yourself in the foot. It’s not going to really help you. Yeah. So I’m not with you every day, so I can’t help you. So the the, the guidebook says only where the reduce prescription in situations. It’s a very situational time, you can’t expect to wear a reduced prescription in a situation where you’re not seeing clearly and you want to that you’re you’re defeating the purpose if you try to do that. Okay. And that’s a big mistake that people make. They go, Oh, I’ve got this reduced prescription. I’ll start wearing it. And I can’t see anything. Yeah, so much mean, things are getting worse. This thing doesn’t work. Oh, wear right. Yeah. So you’re wearing it in the wrong context.


That’s not the place, you should be wearing it.


So that’s a really important fact. I mean, you want to wear the reduce prescription, where you feel comfortable, where you’re not being demanded upon to see things clearer than, you know, you want to see that the myopia reduction or myopia improvement actually doesn’t work when you try to do that. So you since I’m not with you every day, you have to be your own parent, your own guide to say, is this the right circumstance? Or is it not the right circumstance? If I’m frustrated, then it’s the wrong circumstance. So take them off and put on my other ones. Because nearsighted people are addicted to something, you know, what they’re addicted to.


Seeing things clearly, when they base their improvement on whether it’s clear or not.


I’m just writing when


they, when they base it on that they’re missing 99% Of all the other reasons why they became nearsighted. Let me give you the dirty little secret. The very last thing that’s going to improve for you is seeing clearly out of those minus sevens. That’s the very last. That’s the last thing that’s going to change. And the more you can go into high relaxation, and that’s what that blurry prescription is actually asking you to do. completely let go of the need to see things clearly. So look, you got to do it. At a time in your day. When you’ve locked the door to your bedroom and you’re sitting in a chair and there’s no demand on you. That’s the only time you can do that exercise. You Yeah, and probably with the minus sixes, if you’re going to venture into that, that’s a big jump from minus nine.


Oh my God, that’s almost 30% Of course, you’re gonna see things more blurry. But if you’re gonna beat, you’re improving improvement on.


I’m wearing minus six or minus seven. And it’s not really, I don’t really experience a clarity change. Oh, I’m so I’m so sorry. Because you’re way off on a tangent. Because I bet there have been things that have changed. Otherwise, you would have just gone back to your minus nine and forgot the whole thing. Instead of I don’t think I want to wear these much anymore because they they’re doing something to me and I do have more i relaxation, the more I relaxation, you can you can dig into the faster you’re gonna see more clearly in the minus seven.


And along with that, are you saying just the more acceptance of the blur? Like


only it’s only in situations where


you don’t need that clarity?


Yeah, yeah, the acceptance is your mind telling your eyes. I don’t have to be so hyper vigilant. And keeping it clear. Because your prescription. Here’s the narrative. Here’s the story. This is your story, Rebecca. You may not even know your story. But here’s your story, or one part of your story.


I am scared and fearful. Because it’s not super clear for me. I could get in trouble. I could get injured.


I could miss something. So what you do unconsciously, mentally, as you say to yourself, I’m going to put so much hypervigilance into my eyeballs to keep in clear no matter what. That I’m going to strangle those eyeballs. I’m going to cut off my breathing. I’m going to be in such a hyper survival state. And I’m really clever because I’ve buried that really deeply in my system. So I can’t even get in touch with it. And this is darker. It says we’re minus seven. Well, I can’t see the mountains. I’m sad. I bet if you went deeper in the sadness, I wonder if you can get in touch with the fear. Because myopia nirsa is what you’ve got, you know what the major emotion is?


Fear, fear.


It’s not sad. It’s fear. If you could dig very deeply into your emotional body and you can actually own very honestly, what is your biggest fear about not seeing it clearly?


What is it you’re asking me what my biggest fear is about not seeing clearly.


Believe me and minus nine, very deeply in there. There’s fear.


Yeah, I believe you. That’s not no.


Bleed me or, you know, I’m just here as a mirror. The more honest you can be with yourself. And the more deep deeply you can go and excavating that answer. The faster you’re going to be able to see things more clearly in the minus seven. I wonder if you’ve got a real defense going up because another thing that the minus nine says is that you are an expert at deflecting and defending Now, I only know this because I’ve had 10,000 Minus nine patients tell me that. Yeah. So we’re in sacred space. This can be a very powerful time for you because you’re talking to me. I’m gonna ask you the question again, what is your biggest fear of being in the blur?


My first thought is missing the beauty.


Okay, missing the beauty. Give me a couple others as it relates to survival, like what would happen, but if I said, Okay, you can’t have any correction anymore. I’m taking it away from you know, minus nine NO minus seven NO minus six.


What’s up, bring up for you. One thing is you’re not going to be allowed to drive. Right, you’re gonna lose some independence.


So the more you can get in touch with that, the faster you’re going to get


in touch with that core fear of the blur?


Well, fear of core fear.


The core fear of not having your minus prescriptions anymore. What would that look like for you? What would your life be like, if you couldn’t have those prescriptions anymore?


Yeah, I I feel like I wouldn’t be able to do much.


Right. Exactly.


Exactly. You wouldn’t be able to do much. There’s a paralysis. There’s a frozenness. There’s a trauma associated with it. That’s where you need to go.


Not that. You know, it’s okay. I’m doing okay.


Forget it. Stay with the minus nines. So, do you do you think you’ve got any resistance to penetrating that understanding about your fear?


I feel very open to the idea I can it it actually makes sense to hear you say that? Because I’ve felt it and seen it. I know. I know. It’s there. I know. There’s something uncleared to me. There’s something going on. You’re holding me back.


Here’s a thread for you. How old were you when you went to your first eye doctor?


Got my first script in glasses around grade, third grade.


Okay, so let’s go back to third grade. What was happening in third grade?


Well, I would have been around eight, eight years old.


Pardon me it might


be to write about that. To write about that time. What was it like to be?


Yeah, like I can think of a lot more just in general, my general childhood. Like, I know that I felt very unseen and unheard by my father. He was a very busy, very busy man and the community making a big difference. And he came home and yelled at me and I felt very sensitive and it was a very busy household. Yes.


So I’m gonna throw some ideas at you. People that are nearsighted tend to make themselves smaller and invisible. And they retreat into their mental world. Because the outer world is not meeting them or seeing them or validating them. We think that we think that that vision is just in the eyeball. But you’re absorbing energy when you’re a child, and a lot of times you’re absorbing it through the eyes.


So when you were minus nine, that’s a lot of layers that you put over the eyes, to insulate you from the world.


That’s a lot.


So are you, you may not know this, but when you start wearing a lens, a minus lens, it makes the world a lot smaller. It compresses things, it tightens things.


So usually,


you can go to that first eye exam, and at the very first eye exam that can give you an indicator on what was the cause of what you did to yourself to survive.




you know, this point at minus nine, you got a lot of layers of lens between you and yourself, and you in the world. That’s why we take the labor of love, or if we fled to, okay, you know, you can’t wear your prescription. That’d be interesting to do that for part of a day. Yeah. And just to notice your emotional awarenesses forget about, you know, um, let’s see in the mountains, and nothing’s changing. And all that stuff is just distraction. Basically, when you get a prescription and you wear it, it basically in that prescription is your conditioning. It’s your habits. And all the lens is doing is putting a container over


your your reactions. That’s all it’s doing.


So, so any questions, or does this make sense? Or is this not make sense? Or give me some feedback?


Well, it’s interesting to me and I, if I think it makes sense to me. I, I wish I knew how to get more in touch with that core fear.


Well, one of the ways that you can do it is just by maybe writing about your childhood, writing about your father. Because you’re then getting it out onto a page. So you’re expressing instead of internalizing it,




And what you’ve become really good at as it is internalizing stuff. That’s what your minus nine is showed you. Yeah.


Yeah, I can see that in my energy. I can see that.


Right. Exactly. That’s why when you take the lenses completely off, your energy is unbounded. It’s you’re out of control. At that point, you’re not as controlled.


You know that with your lenses off, your energy is much more open to your child. And when you wear your lenses, your energy is much more closed to your child. It’s harder for you to feel the beauty, energetically. When you wear those lenses, even the minus seven Yeah,


try it out. Try it out.


Why in the world? Do you want to wear something that tight? In connecting to your child? Why in the world would you want to of course, you don’t want to do that, right? It’s almost as though


the seeing clearly shouldn’t be part of this process.


In other words, if you’re in a state of working, doing driving, whatever, you just wear where you need to wear to be your safest, highest level of clarity. And then the times when there’s no clarity demand on you, that’s the time that you start exploring no lenses, and relating energetically to your child. You’re going to be much more free, you’re going to be much more embodied. You were the lenses, you’re in a compartment


you got a nice, neat and tidy up. World tied up in it’s nice and neat. It’s clear, it’s organized. There’s nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all. Remember, you called me I didn’t call you. You called me. Calling me. I’m the I’m the guy that says, well, the less prescription you wear, the more uncomfortable you’re going to feel. I have a psychologist friend, he says, Oh, you’re the guy that puts people into their, their uncomfortable feelings. When they reduce the lenses I go look, they they want it. Yeah,


I’m not. We’re not?


No, I’m not trying to sell you something. Anything. I’m trying not to sell you something. So I wouldn’t. I would just caution you I wouldn’t use


the clarity


the clarity as the measurement of whether things are getting better or worse, I actually think you’ve made some huge changes. The sad thing for me is that you’re not really recognizing it. That’s the That’s the sad thing. For me. It’s like, wow, you’ve done all this work. But you’re not even seeing how much improvement you’ve made. Yeah. Right. And really the improvement as very little to do with seeing clearly. You want to see clearly put your minus nines on Yeah, but you got to you got to spend some time in that softer vision. So that you become softer.


So any any questions or comments about this?


Very interesting to me. I’ve written down as much as I can. And I’m getting a recording, right? Well, I’d like my husband to listen to it and help me sort it out and help me see,


like, yeah, like what would it be like, in a safe environment where there’s no acuity for you to take your lenses off and relate to your husband and your child. Just think about that for a minute.


I am okay with that. Like I go every night I go to bed, my husband without contacts on and I’m fine with him in my bedroom and I’m I’m fine with it.


Yeah, so okay and fine. Is on this on the superficial level. I’m not gonna get any. Yeah.


I’m learning I’m learning from you keep talking.


Yeah, that’s not gonna. That’s not gonna cut it. Again, you go to your therapist. How you doing Rebecca? I’m okay. Everything’s fine. Okay, well, why are you here? I’m okay. You gotta you gotta have some depth there. There You got to be willing to dive in to? How’s my energy different? What do I think about what am I? How am I relating to these people in the blur? What does it make me feel? Not okay or fine?


I mean that you’re gonna be okay and fine, forget it. You gotta go deeper. Like


I feel more free I feel more afraid I am confused. I’m, I feel more of a heart connection. I’m less judgmental. I mean, I don’t know. Those are the kinds of things you’re going to need to start bringing into your awareness if you have any hope of connecting to your improvement. Yeah, I mean, you are improving. But you’re just not seeing it. Yeah, your eyes have gotten much better. Otherwise, you’d be wearing your minus nines for this session.




So, yeah, it’s up to you. It’s your choice. Nobody’s forcing you in the end. Right. But you know, maybe you need to get a list of adjectives that you can go on the internet, say, give me a list of adjectives, on


sensations, emotions. So that you have a broader kind of


resource to choose from instead of, I’m okay and fine. Yeah. That’s kind of very, that’s very white bread. You know, wonder bread, milk, you know, it’s narrow. It’s like, okay, I’m sure you don’t eat that way. I’m sure you probably have a broader range of what you eat. So you got to get more rain. You got to get more rainbow into you. Yeah. Because your mind is nine is made you kind of the same.


Narrow? Yeah. So.


So I’d like you to spend some time, you know, maybe, whatever, once a week or something. And if you go to church, you should be wearing your full prescription so that you can see what you’re doing. That’s not the place for you to be doing Vision Improvement. Okay, it’s the wrong. It’s the wrong place. Why? Why do we want to do our deepest exercise, or therapy or healing? When we’re in situations where it’s the most, it’s the busiest and we have to be external, or whatever. And people, oh, I’m doing my exercises while I’m driving on the freeway at 80 miles an hour? Really? How can you even track yourself while you’re driving? So I don’t know where you got the idea of, you know, wearing reduced prescription to church and then not being able to see and relate. That is totally the wrong place to be doing that.


Like, where did that come from?


No, I just Well, because I don’t want to strain my I don’t want to wear the astigmatism correction and pull my eyes anymore. And I’m okay, like I can visit with the people close to me. So I can still interact. I’m like, I feel I can enjoy people.


Okay, so I think I think the thing you have to you have to track in yourself is when you feel frustrated. That’s the wrong experience. Like if you have any critical complaining, frustrated, frustrating ideas, when you’re in a situation where you’re not wearing full prescription that’s on you. Yeah, you have to take responsibility here. It’s not going to hurt your eyes to wear the full prescription in those


in those moments, right.


That’s gonna be you. I mean, I’m not saying whether you should or you shouldn’t. What I’m saying is, you got it Check into your frustration level. Oh, I’m not seeing the mountains I’m not, you know, well, that’s on you quit complaining, just put on what you need.


You got to take full responsibility


for what you wear. And when you wear it, do you have more than one pair of shoes? Yeah, wait, imagine you need another pair, or different pairs of lenses based on what you’re doing. It isn’t one lens for everything.


It’s, you know, wearing,


wearing something that is, meet me to where you are. And, you know, I think accepting the blur is, is okay, I’m using the word, okay. But


if you


know you’re missing stuff, then it’s not okay. You know, if you’re wearing your minus six, and you can’t see the mountains and you want to, then you got to do something about it. So this is more of a lifestyle




not just doing some exercises in some isolated time during the day. But I’ll tell you, I would write about that time period when you got your first prescription. To me, there were three or four things that you said, that could be some causes on why you changed your vision. Your sensitive child, your father couldn’t give you the attention.


You are seen and heard.


We don’t know what was going on in school. I mean, that’s the time when you’re learning to read, reading to learn. Who knows, maybe you had some pressure there. And so you made a decision, I’m going to separate myself from this chaotic world. And I’m gonna pull it in, make it blurry out there. And then what the doctor does is he reinforces your decision. Hey, canal, let me give you this, you’ll be back in six months, I’ll give you more, give me more give you more. So you got reinforced into no emotional reaction that you took, because you weren’t getting your needs met.

And you get to see now if we took your lenses away and said, Okay, now live your life. You’re like, whoa, I’m not sure I could. So there’s probably a paralysis, there’s certainly a separation between you and the world. There’s certainly a tightening compressing survival energy and fear so so if you really connected in with those things, my prediction is you would use the sevens to drive and the sixes for your cooking and indoor stuff. But just the fact that you’re able to tolerate the seven from the nine with with the astigmatism and all that that’s a huge jump and a couple months most people would freak out unless they were working with me. So something has definitely loosened up for you. Yeah, just clarity level. That’s the last thing that changes like when you get when you totally surrender to relaxing into the blur. Then mentally you go I can just stop and into this


does it make sense?


It does.


Yeah, it’s it’s kind of can be like, you know, cod drinking cod liver oil. I don’t like that taste.


What was that?


I said it It’s like drinking cod liver oil. I don’t like the taste of cod liver oil. But it’s the medicine and amusing a metaphor for you.


Slow down, go more inside, I think it’d be, it’d be a great exercise for you one day to relate to your family through your minus sevens. And then take your lenses off, and energetically relate to them without and ask them. How am I different? Without my lenses on? I mean, one thing I would think, yeah, to one thing I would, oh, sorry. Yeah, one thing I would say is, you will be softer, you might be more slow down, you might be more receptive. He might be more relaxed. So you gotta get deeper than the okay and fine place if you want if you want to, you know, really make some changes. So you see you try that. And what happened when you try to?


Join try not to use the word Okay.


Well, well, like you seem tuned into energy. So how’s the energy different? How’s the energy different in you? That would be a question.


Yeah, yeah, I’d like to do it again, like you’re suggesting because I did. I, I did that. Like it might have even been before I met you the first time. I was just looking into this all so I just wanted to try going without any lenses. So I would do that when my family and I were sitting together in the living room in the evenings. And I think I think I could say that I could feel softer to. And so


what would that do to your son? If you were softer in your energy? How would that affect him?


Well, I’m sure it would soften them.


Exactly. And there’d be more love and beauty. More heart connection. I think the softer you are the safer you feel. Less threatened you feel, it means a lot to that softness. Another thing is when you put your minus sevens on your doing machine, there’s no space for you to receive because all your energy is directed externally out


makes sense?


At least okay. So you know, health is about can I receive Can I receive as well as give it isn’t just give, give, give, but can I receive no, my, my we’re coming down to the end of our session. My assessment is you’ve made huge changes. Keep going. Maybe let’s talk in another three to four months. And see if you can bring this new focus to your to your vision. And that means writing about your childhood a little bit, getting into the core fear going without your lenses, some relaxing into the blur more. And do it throughout the day. Do it as part of your daily routine and you have full permission to wear strong lenses when you need to see clearly and that’s not going to affect your movement


even even if you wear them when you’re driving and they feel tight. You’re like gonna wear them for a bit and then you’ll take them off and you put on and you’ll go ha. Now these minus sevens are a relief. Yeah. And that’ll be good for you to feel that contrast. And the more you feel that contrast, eventually the minus seven, you’re going to feel comfortable to drive in them.


The minus six you mean?


minus whatever you got, I think again, you 716


Yeah, driving, but I might get to be workable with the six that you’re saying. Okay, you can go


all right, any last words before we sign off?


Um, I’m interested in essential oils. I use them a lot. And I noticed that you recommend them. I had a friend just tell him he thinks frankincense and Copaiba. Would would help. Open up that.


Yeah, both of those. The both of those could do the one. Where do you feel comfortable applying them?


I’m, well I have been doing that ASCII. Since she told me about it. I’ve been doing a job underneath my tongue. And then I just, I just, I’m okay with putting it away. I do. I just thought of that, like in the last couple days. So I just started that if you put it or


if you put it around the eyes, put it at the forehead above the eyes up here. So you can put them here and then put them on the side of the eyes kind of by the years.


So um, amen. Bob. Forehead in here.


Yep. And don’t get them close to the eyes. You don’t need to because there’s a lot of blood vessels that will allow it to indirectly go in. So it’s not getting near your eyes. Burn. So, here, here and here.


Oh yeah,


that’d be good news. Both of those. Okay. All right, kiddo. Keep up the good work. I’ll talk to you maybe in a couple months. Okay. I’ll send you this recording. Okay,


thank you so much.

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