Host John Farrell talks to Berkeley city councilor Kate Harrison and affordable housing developer Sean Armstrong about why cities should help residents to switch from gas to electric for their energy needs by exercising city authority over gas hookups. They also discuss: California's complicated legacy of incentivizing gas use and how the rest of the country compares [1:17]; how detrimental burning gas can be to the health and safety of residents [7:51]; why cities and towns are uniquely suited to get gas out of buildings [20:50]; and how switching from gas to electric can cut energy costs, slow climate change, and lead to more affordable housing development [35:37].