Host John Farrell speaks with Denise Fairchild, President of Emerald Cities Collaborative and author of Energy Democracy. Denise and John delve into the connections between the environment, the economy and equity. They also discuss: the benefits of decentralizing control and ownership of our energy system [6:30]; what is energy democracy and what does it look like to achieve energy democracy? [12:19]; parallels between the abolition movement and the fight for energy democracy [24:22]; how do we undo past harm to communities of color to ensure they have access to the money and resources to transition to clean energy and engage in energy democracy? [32:03]; how a bottom up approach to clean energy can scale rapidly [37:33].