This episode features a conversation with Douglas S. from my home group, We Agnostics Kansas City. Douglas has been skateboarding his entire life and recommended a podcast to discuss the film "The Way Out" by professional skateboarder Jim Greco. The film is a view into Jim Greco's 11th and 12th year of sobriety. The following week, we recorded this episode which includes a discussion of the film, skateboarding culture, and learning how to enjoy activities in sobriety that we used to do when we were drinking.