Join host Sam Bushman on this episode of Liberty RoundTable, recorded on 12/4/25, as he welcomes Pete Sepp, President of the National Taxpayers Union (NTU), for an in-depth discussion on the state of American fiscal policy, government reform, and the ongoing fight for taxpayer rights. Broadcasting live from the Rocky Mountains, this episode dives into the latest developments in Congress, including the challenges of the federal budget, the looming threat of government shutdowns, and the efforts to slow the growth of government spending.

Pete Sepp shares expert insights on recent legislative victories, such as the Taxpayer Assistance and Service Act, and explains how reforms are making the IRS more transparent and accountable to everyday Americans. The conversation covers the impact of tax policies on migration trends, with a spotlight on why Americans are leaving high-tax states like California and New York for more fiscally responsible states like Florida and Texas.

Sam and Pete also explore the importance of grassroots activism, the power of local taxpayer groups, and the role of NTU in providing guidance and solutions for citizens who want to make a difference. The episode balances candid economic realities—like rising inflation and affordability issues—with a message of hope, emphasizing the need for positive action, civic engagement, and a focus on solutions rather than division.

Whether you’re concerned aboutWhether you’re concerned about taxes, government accountability, or the future of American liberty, this episode offers practical advice, inspiring stories, and a call to action for all who care about the direction of the country. Tune in for a thoughtful, nonpartisan conversation that highlights both the challenges and the opportunities facing America today.

Key Topics & Time Markers:

• Introduction & Guest Welcome
• 0:00 – Liberty RoundTable opens; Sam Bushman introduces Pete Sepp, President of the National Taxpayers Union
• Congressional Session & Fiscal Cliff
• 1:20 – Discussion on the end of the congressional session and the looming fiscal cliff
• Federal Budget & “Kicking the Can”
• 2:07 – Analysis of the latest budget deal and the recurring issue of “kicking the can down the road”
• Tax Relief & Business Deductions
• 3:52 – What’s in the new tax relief bill and its impact on small and large businesses
• Medicaid Reform & Slowing Government Growth
• 4:59 – Medicaid reform, entitlement programs, and efforts to slow government growth
• IRS Reform & Taxpayer Assistance and Service Act
• 6:59 – Progress on IRS reform, the Taxpayer Assistance and Service Act, and making the IRS more accountable
• Bipartisan “No-Brainer” Bills
• 10:32 – Overview of bipartisan bills aimed at transparency and fiscal responsibility
• Tax Migration: Why Americans Move
• 12:55 – IRS data on Americans moving from high-tax to low-tax states; Florida, Texas, and North Carolina as top destinations
• Affordability, Housing, and State Tax Policy
• 16:18 – The role of taxes in housing affordability and state-level tax reforms
• Energy Policy & Green Energy Subsidies
• 19:45 – Energy prices, green energy subsidies, and the push for small nuclear reactors
• Looking Ahead: Next Year in Congress
• 22:16 – What to expect from Congress in the coming year, including budget reconciliation and potential shutdowns
• National Taxpayers Union: How to Get Involved
• 23:59 – How NTU supports local taxpayer groups and how viewers can get involved
• Civic Engagement, Positivity & Be Best Campaign
• 27:18 – The importance of civic engagement, positivity, and Melania Trump’s Be Best campaign
• Eric Trump, Turning Point USA, and “Under Siege”
• 27:50 – Eric Trump’s new book, Turning Point USA, and the theme of “America Under Siege”
• Inflation, Economy, and Health Code Example
• 39:22 – Real-world example of inflation’s impact on business and consumers
• Giving Tuesday & Supporting Independent Media
• 43:19 – The importance of Giving Tuesday and supporting independent, liberty-focused media
• Exclusive Citizenship Act & Closing Thoughts
• 44:59 – Discussion of the Exclusive Citizenship Act and final thoughts on American values and civic responsibility

Whether you’re concerned about taxes, government accountability, or the future of American liberty, this episode offers practical advice, inspiring stories, and a call to action for all who care about the direction of the country. Tune in for a thoughtful, nonpartisan conversation that highlights both the challenges and the opportunities facing America today.